Something is not quite right...
Forum rules
For the discussion of topics related to the conservation, cultivation, propagation, exhibition & science of cacti & other succulents only.
Please respect all forum members opinions and if you can't make a civil reply, don't reply!
For the discussion of topics related to the conservation, cultivation, propagation, exhibition & science of cacti & other succulents only.
Please respect all forum members opinions and if you can't make a civil reply, don't reply!
-
- Registered Guest
- Posts: 308
- https://www.behance.net/kuchnie-warszawa
- Joined: 28 Dec 2020
- Branch: None
- Country: uk
- Role within the BCSS: Member
Something is not quite right...
From seed from one supplier I had a single seedling survive that was a bit larger than expected.
I assumed this was a seed that had scattered into the wrong pot so I just put it in a corner to wait for a flower.
As you can see it has a nice white flower that opened yesterday- it does not look like anything else I have.
The seedlings in the clay pot are R. albiflora -seed was from ADBLPS for comparison.
I guess this lone seedling is a hybrid of some sort?
- juster
- BCSS Member
- Posts: 2132
- Joined: 17 Sep 2013
- Branch: CROYDON
- Country: UK
- Role within the BCSS: Branch Show
- Location: Surrey
Re: Something is not quite right...
That's an interesting comparison Simon and I should think you may be right. The plants in the larger pot look just like my albifloras. There are some very knowledgeable Rebutia/Aylostera growers here, so let's see what they say.
Croydon Branch member, growing mainly cacti and Echeverias
- habanerocat
- BCSS Member
- Posts: 1020
- Joined: 02 Jun 2012
- Branch: EDENBRIDGE
- Country: Mid-West Ireland
- Role within the BCSS: Member
- Location: Ireland
Re: Something is not quite right...
This is in John Pilbeam's book on page 143.
I see that the book is now free to download as per this recent thread here:
https://www.forum.bcss.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=174254
Nice plant whatever it is. I wouldn't mind having one myself.
I see that the book is now free to download as per this recent thread here:
https://www.forum.bcss.org.uk/viewtopic.php?t=174254
Nice plant whatever it is. I wouldn't mind having one myself.
- ralphrmartin
- BCSS Research Committee Chairman
- Posts: 6099
- Joined: 11 Jan 2007
- Branch: None
- Country: United Kingdom
- Role within the BCSS: Chairman - Research
- Location: Pwllheli
- Contact:
Re: Something is not quite right...
The plant on the right is "the real" Aylostera albiflora, as you say.
The one on the left is more puzzling, and I wouldn't even be certain which genus to put it in, without a closer look. Here's how to tell:
Rebutia: Flower tube and fruit smooth, or at most finely hairy
Aylostera: Flower tube hairy and bristly
The shape of the flowers doesn't seem quite right for Rebutia senilis 'Rose of York', to me, and I suspect it might be an Aylostera - but it doesn't seem to be one of the species that typically flowers white - so might be a hybrid. Aylostera albiflora does hybridise easily, and is involved in the parentage of many of the named Aylostera hybrids.
The one on the left is more puzzling, and I wouldn't even be certain which genus to put it in, without a closer look. Here's how to tell:
Rebutia: Flower tube and fruit smooth, or at most finely hairy
Aylostera: Flower tube hairy and bristly
The shape of the flowers doesn't seem quite right for Rebutia senilis 'Rose of York', to me, and I suspect it might be an Aylostera - but it doesn't seem to be one of the species that typically flowers white - so might be a hybrid. Aylostera albiflora does hybridise easily, and is involved in the parentage of many of the named Aylostera hybrids.
Ralph Martin
https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/cacti.html
Members visiting the Llyn Peninsula are welcome to visit my collection.
Swaps and sales at https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/forsale.php
My Field Number Database is at https://www.fieldnos.bcss.org.uk
https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/cacti.html
Members visiting the Llyn Peninsula are welcome to visit my collection.
Swaps and sales at https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/forsale.php
My Field Number Database is at https://www.fieldnos.bcss.org.uk
-
- Registered Guest
- Posts: 308
- Joined: 28 Dec 2020
- Branch: None
- Country: uk
- Role within the BCSS: Member
Re: Something is not quite right...
Hi
Thanks for the replies.
I think the plant is Aylostera from looking closely at it, so probably a hybrid with A. albiflora as a parent.
It turned out more interesting than a stray seed anyway.
I'll try to grow it up a bit more and see how it develops.
Thanks for the replies.
I think the plant is Aylostera from looking closely at it, so probably a hybrid with A. albiflora as a parent.
It turned out more interesting than a stray seed anyway.
I'll try to grow it up a bit more and see how it develops.
- MikeT
- BCSS Member
- Posts: 1989
- Joined: 11 Jan 2007
- Branch: SHEFFIELD
- Country: UK
- Role within the BCSS: Branch Treasurer
- Location: Sheffield
Re: Something is not quite right...
Do you think it could be 'Meisterstuck', Ralph? That's he other white flowered cultivar that comes to mind.
Mike T
Sheffield Branch
BCSS member26525
Sheffield Branch
BCSS member26525
- ralphrmartin
- BCSS Research Committee Chairman
- Posts: 6099
- Joined: 11 Jan 2007
- Branch: None
- Country: United Kingdom
- Role within the BCSS: Chairman - Research
- Location: Pwllheli
- Contact:
Re: Something is not quite right...
It could be Rebutia 'Meisterstuck', which has a body more like Rebutia marsoneri - but somehow the upright and pointy shape of the petals, with some behind others, seems more like Aylostera to me. That;s just a hunch.
Ralph Martin
https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/cacti.html
Members visiting the Llyn Peninsula are welcome to visit my collection.
Swaps and sales at https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/forsale.php
My Field Number Database is at https://www.fieldnos.bcss.org.uk
https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/cacti.html
Members visiting the Llyn Peninsula are welcome to visit my collection.
Swaps and sales at https://www.rrm.me.uk/Cacti/forsale.php
My Field Number Database is at https://www.fieldnos.bcss.org.uk