Lophophora starting to rot -what do I do

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Lophophora starting to rot -what do I do

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Hi,
I've got a double headed Lophophora Williamsii that I've had for over 10 years. I've just noticed that there's 2 dark soft spots developed, one on each head at either end of the cacti. See the pics below.
They're both soft to the touch and look like rot to me.

I really want to save this cacti. What should I be doing?
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If it is soft and spongy, then I would cut it out until you come across nothing but fresh looking greenish tissue, and all the brown stuff is gone.

If one of the parts is hard, I would have a look to see if it spreads. You could take a pen and mark the edges, to see if it spreads the next week / weeks. If it does, I would suggest to do my first suggestion above.
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It's only soft and spongy in the discoloured part around the base, elsewhere its firm. I've now marked it with pen so I should know if it spreads.

Is there anything I can do to minimise the spread, or maximise it's chances of survival. Is it better to keep it in a cold location, say, or somewhere warm?
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Aiko wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:23 pm If it is soft and spongy, then I would cut it out until you come across nothing but fresh looking greenish tissue, and all the brown stuff is gone.

If one of the parts is hard, I would have a look to see if it spreads. You could take a pen and mark the edges, to see if it spreads the next week / weeks. If it does, I would suggest to do my first suggestion above.
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Aiko wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:23 pm If it is soft and spongy, then I would cut it out until you come across nothing but fresh looking greenish tissue, and all the brown stuff is gone.
If I cut out the rot what's my next step. Should I treat the cut green tissue with anything: sulphur, fungicide, etc and then what, just leave it to dry?
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Anytime I've had to cut into a cactus I have always followed up with a dusting of Sulfur powder. It seems to keep rot or opportunistic fungi at bay. If you cut into the Lophos I would think to keep them a bit warmer than normal overwintering temperatures. Hope you save them 🤞🤞
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Anytime I've cut into a cactus I've always followed with a dusting of Sulfur powder. It seems to keep rot or opportunistic fungi at bay. If you cut into the Lophos I would think to keep them a bit warmer than normal overwintering temperatures. Hope you save them 🤞🤞
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I'd endorse that. Sulphur does seem to keep the nasties away.
AND I'd agree that the Lophophora might be happier in a warmer spot over winter
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Just FYI,
As a chemist, (tu) for Ed re. sulfur not sulphur. :wink:
IUPAC deemed that sulfur was the preferred spelling many years ago now, see e.g.:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nchem.301
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Tony R wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:34 pm Just FYI,
As a chemist, (tu) for Ed re. sulfur not sulphur. :wink:
IUPAC deemed that sulfur was the preferred spelling many years ago now, see e.g.:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nchem.301
ok I'm old school
Endeavouring to grow Aylostera, Echinocereus, Echinopsis, Gymnocalycium, Matucana, Rebutia, and Sulcorebutia. Fallen out of love with Lithops and aggravated by Aeoniums.
Currently being wooed by Haworthia, attempting hybridisation, and enticed by Mesembs. Recently discovered gorgeous Gasteria.
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