Bill's not on his own - New Arrivals

[Julie]

Pretty Astro, Trevor.

And a pseudolithos... keep us updated how it goes. I love them to bits but I don't dare get one.

[Trevor]

Hi Guys,

Colin, I thought they'd put everything these days into foetida, but really it looks nothing like foetida, different leaves, different stem, different colours - geez, I really hate "the name game" !

Maria, that's Euphorbia knuthii at the top left...

Julie, fingers crossed as this id my first attempt at Pseudo's. Pretty amazing even to be able to get them. I remember years ago they were a bit like the Holy Grail !! What's more I have some seed coming for some different species, so hopefully next season I'll have a bit of a collection !

[pijaya]

Hi Trevor
very nice selection of plants. I love the leaves of those D. lanceolata. I got a little seedling of that from a friend but still quite small. It is true everything now seems to be lumped into crispa/foetida complex. I keep many forms of Dorstenia and I'm in firm beleif that these can't possibly be all the same species, let alone varieties. There are too many variation in flowers, stems, leaves. I hope one day someone will have the time to study these little plants deeply.

see different Dorstenia forms:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/alb ... 8321UJfVMF

[Colin Walker]

Hi Trevor,

The Dorstenia monograph by Berg & Hijman that I referred to in my D. hildebrandtii thread doesn't have a D. lanceolata anywhere, the nearest being D. crispa var. lancifolia and that's a another synonym anyway, so I reckon, mate, you've made this name up. So in my book this is just another form of D. foetida.

Just why DOES every different variant need a different name?:S

[Trevor]

Nope, didn't make it up Colin, that's what it was sold as - even Pijaya has one under that name - maybe someone has just tagged it with that and somehow it's stuck with some sellers. I agree that it's not a valid name and the plant is most likely (the formerly known as) crispa v. lancifolia, but it really bares very little outwards resemblance to average foetida/crispa.

Maybe we'll all end up labelling plants with something like "Dorstenia foetida, from 50 km's north of the one on the other shelf" or maybe "Dorstenia foetida, but the one with long silver leaves and dark stem"

I'm gunna need bigger labels

[Maria J]

Thanks Trevor!

[Colin Walker]

Hi Trevor,

I was admiring Chief Mod's Dorstenias today. Tina has one labelled D. crispa v. lancifolia that has attractively marked leaves too. Forgotten Tina what your other one was labelled, but hey, as I said, they're both just D. foetida, and that name saves on the ink.