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One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:27 pm
by Ernie
I have lost the label of this plant. Looking at the Gasteria book I am no wiser. Any offers on species please
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Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:00 pm
by Stuart
How does Gasteria Thunbergii sound?

Stuart

Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:12 pm
by Tony R
Yes, indeed. Nice plant, Ernie, beautifully displayed.
Re. the 'Gasteria book', page 85, second item down, thunbergii --> carinata var. verrucosa. EvJ elevated it back to species status in 2007.

Here are some in the former collection of the late Cok Grootscholten:

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Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:32 pm
by Ernie
Thank you very much. Excellent information. Does that mean Gasteria carinata var. verrucosa is a sperate species?. I have two plants with that name. Obtained from Abbeybrook in 2018. One has Abbey brook ref. number 7645 Ex RE73 (Ron Evans?) The other has Abbeybrook number 7502 Herbertsdale form, Ex. Selectra nursery South Africa 6/1998. Both look the same but neither looks much like the photo I posted.

Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:49 pm
by MatDz
Ernie wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:32 pm [...] Both look the same but neither looks much like the photo I posted.
You need to give us more photos for a proper identification! (I'm kidding, just want to see more photos for Christmas.)

Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:18 pm
by Tony R
Yes, Ernie. Gasteria carinata var. verrucosa is a discrete sp/var - who knows, it might even become G. verrucosa again, eventually.

G. thunbergii was lumped into it once but EvJ separated it again as thunbergii has two quite unique characteristics.1. the leaves incurve and can almost completely enclose in dry conditions, 2. it usually forms offsets on stolons (the unrelated G. pillansii is the only other gasteria that does this).

Sone more photos (just for Mat :wink: )

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Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:27 pm
by Ernie
Thanks Tony. I am pleased I started this thread. Its interesting. I have noticed that my thunbergii has white horizontal stripes running down the length of the dark green leaves whereas the G. C. Var verrucosa plants have dull green leaves with raised white spots. Having so many of these plants and Haworthias, perhaps its time I joined the Haworthia society.

Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:52 am
by AllanA
Nice to see someone else using bonsai dishes, a lot of my seedlings are in Bonsai dishes.

Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:52 pm
by TomInTucson
AllanA wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:52 am Nice to see someone else using bonsai dishes, a lot of my seedlings are in Bonsai dishes.
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Re: One for Tony or Stuart

Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:10 am
by ianstrutt
I’ve been looking for g. thunbergii for a while. Was pleased to find a small plant on eBay recently. It has the concave leaves and is offsetting on a stolon so happy I’ve got the right plant!