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Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:00 pm
by MatDz
I'm trying to find a JI substitute for the slow(er) growing Mexican cacti like Aztekiums or Lophophoras, and I found the sterilised, loam based "cricket dressing" with 38% Clay, 42% Silt & 20% Sand, which seems to be perfect for what I'm trying to achieve when mixed with grit and moler clay: https://www.agrigem.co.uk/kaloam-cricket-loam-25kg

It should also work nice as a base for the "peat free" mix for other plants, with some organic matter added, I just need to decide what this "organic matter" will be.

Does anyone have any experience with using similar mixes? I remember Aiko (it's a shame one cannot "call" another user, isn't it?) mentioning he's using loam mixes for similar cacti, anyone else?

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:49 pm
by Cidermanrolls
I tried it once. No longer. I found I couldn’t get drainage.
(I’m a cricket groundsman, btw)

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:08 pm
by Aiko
MatDz wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:00 pm Does anyone have any experience with using similar mixes? I remember Aiko (it's a shame one cannot "call" another user, isn't it?) mentioning he's using loam mixes for similar cacti, anyone else?
Yep. Also for almost all of my seedlings in about a 25% loam, 25% rough sand, 25% pebbles and 25% top soil mix for many species, but things like Aztekium and other miniature cacti and mesembs will be in a 50% loam and 25% rough sand and 25% pebbles. I don't use it for big pots, though.

I have no idea what the sand / silt / clay ratio of my loam itself is... But it clumps up nicely when it is dry and becomes soft as butter when it gets wet. I have written an article on this for the Mesemb Study Group bulletin a few years back.

I use the type of loam that is being used to smear on walls on the inside of houses (to insulate, I believe). I am very happy with it. Bought a big bag of 1000 kilo about ten years ago thinking it could last me for twenty years.

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:26 pm
by MatDz
Cidermanrolls wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:49 pm I tried it once. No longer. I found I couldn’t get drainage.
(I’m a cricket groundsman, btw)
I love when a random mention of cricket reveals a professional on the forum :mrgreen:

I hope we'll find a solution to the drainage problem with Aiko's help! What was the rest of the mix you used?
Aiko wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:08 pm Yep. Also for almost all of my seedlings in about a 25% loam, 25% rough sand, 25% pebbles and 25% top soil mix for many species, but things like Aztekium and other miniature cacti and mesembs will be in a 50% loam and 25% rough sand and 25% pebbles. I don't use it for big pots, though.

I have no idea what the sand / silt / clay ratio of my loam itself is... But it clumps up nicely when it is dry and becomes soft as butter when it gets wet. I have written an article on this for the Mesemb Study Group bulletin a few years back.

I use the type of loam that is being used to smear on walls on the inside of houses (to insulate, I believe). I am very happy with it. Bought a big bag of 1000 kilo about ten years ago thinking it could last me for twenty years.
Any chance you'd have am author version of the article somewhere, or maybe could photograph the article itself?

Seems like the extra sand/fine grit could be the solution to improve drainage.

I keep seeing those lovely Lophophoras in clay heavy substrates creating big crater-like holes around in winter, maybe I'd be able to pull it off indoor?!

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:38 pm
by Aiko
MatDz wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:26 pm Any chance you'd have am author version of the article somewhere, or maybe could photograph the article itself?
If you help me remember after the weekend, I can put the article up here. Currently I am not home, so don't have access to the file.

But there is a Dutch version I have made for Ruud Tropper for his website (along with two very bad pictures, I see): https://www.cactusinfo.nl/index.php/hul ... -substraat. I have no idea how well an automated translation will work for you.
MatDz wrote: Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:26 pm Seems like the extra sand/fine grit could be the solution to improve drainage.

I keep seeing those lovely Lophophoras in clay heavy substrates creating big crater-like holes around in winter, maybe I'd be able to pull it off indoor?!
The loam dries out relatively fast in my greenhouse. I can't tell how it will work on a window sill if there is hardly any fresh air movement going on. But if you cram more plants in one pot, that will certainly help getting things to dry out faster if they take up the moist in the soil. And drainage can be improved with a lot of pebbles or grit. But I doubt fine sand will be of much help.

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:30 am
by MatDz
I lived in Gent for about a year, but that's hardly a help here, G. translate did the work pretty well though.

Also, I was thinking about the rough/sharp sand you mentioned earlier as an additive, but this is probably already in the loam mix, so some finer grit would be much better. I will give it a try, would love to see some of the Lophs seedlings in it!

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:07 am
by Herts Mike
And I’m an ex cricketer!

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:08 am
by Tina
All my lophophora are in JI2 & cat litter-moler, they really aren't difficult to grow.
I never use sand unless its for rooting some seedlings

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:17 pm
by iann
Is it made from actual crickets?

Re: Cricket loam for Aztekiums, Lophophoras etc.

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:25 pm
by Pattock
iann wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:17 pm Is it made from actual crickets?
That is a lot more expensive and probably not very good for drainage.

https://www.eatgrub.co.uk/product/crick ... ket-flour/

It might initiate defense responses in the plant due to chitin content, though mushrooms would be cheaper.

https://www.pnas.org/content/103/29/11086